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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://www.morningtower.net/2008/07/04/independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that governments never legislate morality, because the moral law and the civil law are entities in themselves, although they can correspond sometimes.  While God gives the moral law, man creates the human law, which is necessary to have social order; in this country, the human law is a consensus of the people.

Human law governs the actions of those in a society, therefore the human law states that one cannot get drunk and then walk through the streets naked; this disrupts the social order.  It does not (should not), however dictate private action: the law doesn&#039;t forbid someone to get drunk in their own home.  In Christianity, it is a sin to intentionally get drunk (Aquinas says that we are rational creatures and to become intoxicated is to willingly give up the rationality that God gifted us with).  Therefore, the moral law coincides with the law against public drunkenness.

Does that mean the human law is the moral law?  Nope.  Some would argue it.  They would complain that they should have the &quot;freedom&quot; to get drunk wherever they please.  Instead, there&#039;s a law against public drunkenness because some people don&#039;t know that to get drunk is to give up their freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that governments never legislate morality, because the moral law and the civil law are entities in themselves, although they can correspond sometimes.  While God gives the moral law, man creates the human law, which is necessary to have social order; in this country, the human law is a consensus of the people.</p>
<p>Human law governs the actions of those in a society, therefore the human law states that one cannot get drunk and then walk through the streets naked; this disrupts the social order.  It does not (should not), however dictate private action: the law doesn&#8217;t forbid someone to get drunk in their own home.  In Christianity, it is a sin to intentionally get drunk (Aquinas says that we are rational creatures and to become intoxicated is to willingly give up the rationality that God gifted us with).  Therefore, the moral law coincides with the law against public drunkenness.</p>
<p>Does that mean the human law is the moral law?  Nope.  Some would argue it.  They would complain that they should have the &#8220;freedom&#8221; to get drunk wherever they please.  Instead, there&#8217;s a law against public drunkenness because some people don&#8217;t know that to get drunk is to give up their freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Valarie</title>
		<link>http://www.morningtower.net/2008/07/04/independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>Valarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the government should legislate morality because governments are made up of men, and our elected officials are not always Christian.  Even those who claim to be Christian, and even Catholic, often support very anti-Christian agendas, such as abortion.  God&#039;s laws are perfect, and eternal.  They are the same, regardless of who governs here on earth.

To further clarify:  just because something is legal, doesn&#039;t necessarily make it okay, morally speaking.  It&#039;s obedience to God and His law that &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;*should*&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; dictate our behavior.  Happily, if we are living our lives in line with the teachings of the Bible and the Church, we will almost always be obeying civil law.  The opposite is not necessarily true.

So, I believe that  if we are diligent in sharing Christ&#039;s message, then those who receive it will no longer participate in those activities that may be legal, but are immoral.

I&#039;m not sure if I&#039;ve answered your question about the difference between the moral law and the human law directly, but hopefully it makes more sense now!  Thanks for your comment!  It&#039;s great to hear from you!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the government should legislate morality because governments are made up of men, and our elected officials are not always Christian.  Even those who claim to be Christian, and even Catholic, often support very anti-Christian agendas, such as abortion.  God&#8217;s laws are perfect, and eternal.  They are the same, regardless of who governs here on earth.</p>
<p>To further clarify:  just because something is legal, doesn&#8217;t necessarily make it okay, morally speaking.  It&#8217;s obedience to God and His law that <em><strong>*should*</strong></em> dictate our behavior.  Happily, if we are living our lives in line with the teachings of the Bible and the Church, we will almost always be obeying civil law.  The opposite is not necessarily true.</p>
<p>So, I believe that  if we are diligent in sharing Christ&#8217;s message, then those who receive it will no longer participate in those activities that may be legal, but are immoral.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;ve answered your question about the difference between the moral law and the human law directly, but hopefully it makes more sense now!  Thanks for your comment!  It&#8217;s great to hear from you!!</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://www.morningtower.net/2008/07/04/independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a question to rouse some thought: why shouldn&#039;t a government legislate morality?  If all the laws were just, would you still be against the government legislating morality?  What&#039;s the different between the moral law and the human law?

That&#039;s a good post, btw, for the 4th.  Hope the family&#039;s doing well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a question to rouse some thought: why shouldn&#8217;t a government legislate morality?  If all the laws were just, would you still be against the government legislating morality?  What&#8217;s the different between the moral law and the human law?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good post, btw, for the 4th.  Hope the family&#8217;s doing well!</p>
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